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The only way to defeat them would be to self-host ads. Which would actually be a good thing since publishers would now have an incentive to make them as light as possible since it's their bandwidth being used.


because of how pi-hole works (works on the DNS level), all they have to do is use some CDN domain, which can't possibly be blocked without serious collateral damage.


Yes, but as long as they don't pihole works beautifully because the ads are killed before they are downloaded, in stead of stripped after the download (like with uBlock).

Especially on data capped devices like mobile phones it works wonders.


>the ads are killed before they are downloaded, in stead of stripped after the download (like with uBlock).

That’s false. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Does-uBlock-block-ads...


> Yes, but as long as they don't pihole works beautifully because the ads are killed before they are downloaded, in stead of stripped after the download (like with uBlock).

> Especially on data capped devices like mobile phones it works wonders.

Are you implying that pihole works wonders on data-capped devices such as mobile phones? If the phone is connected to a network with a pihole, it isn’t using the capped cellular service. If it is using the capped cellular service, it isn’t going through a pihole. Am I missing something?


It's less common, but some people use a VPN while on mobile data to get back to their local network.

https://docs.pi-hole.net/guides/vpn/overview/

I guess you could also setup your pihole to be externally accessible and then point your phone's DNS at it, though I'm not sure that's a particularly good idea.


Some ISPs have caps as well. Comcast has caps in most of the USA for example.


My phone and tablet connect via openvpn to a server running pi-hole.


> in stead of stripped after the download (like with uBlock)

That's quite an erroneous statement, especially given how easy it is to verify.

You can see for yourself by using uBlock Origin along with your pi-hole: your pi-hole will see _less_ network requests with uBO (or any other similar blockers really).

Everything which is blocked by uBO will not be seen by your pi-hole, and this simple observation contradicts your statement.


This is what CDNs are designed for, the allow a few companies to get a monopoly on your browsing data. This is why I prefer uMatrix, it blocks all third party requests, a lot of stuff breaks but it breaks because their tracking you.


Doesn't using a CDN break impressions statistics, making it impossible to administer?


Agreed, I find that self-hosted ads tend to be the least offensive. Even if this changed, and some self-hosted ads were intrusive or malicious, it would certainly be a simple problem to solve: block site X.com and don't visit site X.com




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