Perhaps not home ownership - but in many (most?) parts of this country a reliable vehicle is an absolute requirement for holding down a job. A bankrupt person, if anything, is in greatest need of a trustworthy car, and is also the most likely to require a loan to do so.
There's also the notion of rent - people who've always had good credit don't really know how different renting is like for people who have bad credit. I came to this country a few years ago with zero US credit rating, and even with a high salary, offer letters, etc, had one hell of a time finding a place to live. Many landlords simply will not consider you, while others charge exorbitant deposits to cover the risk.
The recently bankrupt are also the least able to afford a security deposit several times higher than what everyone else pays.
The reality of credit in the US is that your life gets exponentially harder as your credit worsens, and the difficulty in turning that ship around increases dramatically. People who've never had to suffer from bad/no credit really need to examine this before clucking judgmentally.
I came into US with no credit too, and had absolutely no problem to rent. Actually, I had much more problem finding lenders willing to accept my pets than my credit (for some reason, most of the local apartments hate pets, no matter how small and harmless). Yes, they asked for security deposits (not exorbitant - 1-2 months, and many require it even with good credit), and yes, car loan I got was outrageously expensive compared to what I could've gotten with good credit - but I still could buy anything I needed.
I guess maybe in the Silicon Valley everybody is used to immigrants so nobody is surprised when the person with no credit shows up, especially if they have the actual money. If you have no money that's different, but then the primary problem is not credit.
BK, foreclosure of a home loan, and repossession of a car from a loan leave flags on one's credit file that are very different from no credit or even bad credit.
If a person with no credit history in the USA (like a naturalized alien) is added as an authorized user to an existing credit account the credit history of this account is 'cloned' to the new addition.
Low to a fiscally solvent person. Even a couple thousand dollars is loan-worthy amounts to someone fresh out of a bankruptcy. Pawn shops and payday loan shops, after all, are a testament to the poor's need for small loans.
Could be. But there are some unlucky people in there as well - single parents who bought a house at the peak of the housing bubble because they were afraid that home prices would keep rising and leave them without a place to live. And then promptly lost their job in the recession.
Real estate speculators who made highly leveraged bets that went bad are in fact the sort of people who should, perhaps, not get the opportunity to repeat their mistakes.
Thanks. I never lived in the US. I came to Britain (from Germany) with neither car nor credit history. They let me rent a place, and I never had to buy a car. (Oh, and didn't have to worry about health insurance, either. But that's a slightly different topic.)
I wonder how my move to Singapore will play out.
But should I ever come to the US, I'll make sure I have plenty of money.
If you know how to hustle in the vernacular sense you can come to the USA penniless and retire wealthy.
The USA is a great place if you want/need the rule of law to protect property.
Overall, the US civil legal system is not corrupt. In many places in Asia and E. Europe corruption is systemic. It is much more difficult to keep a successful business in such an environment.
One example is real estate escrow services with title insurance.
Are you living in a different US? I'm not saying the path to wealth is beyond my horizon, but there's a lot in the way that only exists because previous generations managed things poorly. Someone starting a little further behind would have an exponentially harder time.
I am saying the USA is the easiest and safest place on planet earth to start your own business. If you know how to:
1. buy low & sell high
2. defer personal gratification
3. save a % of everything you earn
you can gradually grow wealthy.
The world is in recession, and the US might be starting to recover. It is a hard market right now. But it will recover and boom (and then crash) again.
I have traveled in Russia and Mexico and made friends with regular people who live there. I also studied economics at university. I am thinking about what I am writing here.
And you have the means to travel to Russia and Mexico with enough depth to get to know people there, and went to a university.
Travel is beyond the means of most people in the US, both in time (can't get time off) and money (living paycheck to paycheck is common). That's if you're fortunate enough to be in the upper range of the middle class. Much lower and you're lucky to see a movie once a year, or participate in the broader culture at all.
What seems to matter most is an area's social and physical infrastructure. A person in the poorest part of NYC can scrape together enough for a subway ride to a better part of town to look for opportunity. They might even have access to a charity transportation service.
A person in the suburbs is doomed if their car breaks down, unless they can afford to fix it or know someone with the time to shuttle them around.
These are understandings derived from my experience and the experiences of people I know. I only took an introductory economics class at a community college, but I've also known plenty of well-educated, well-traveled people with no perspective. It seems like depth of education and experience matters more than breadth.
Consider the possibility that your studies and travels didn't open your eyes wide enough to the situation in your own country.
> I am very curious what your specific examples are.
The world is moving in the right direction--especially away from suburban nests of roads that require a car, which is highly relevant to my own obstacles--, so I don't see a point in elaborating.
> 1. buy low & sell high 2. defer personal gratification 3. save a % of everything you earn
What if you start with nothing, in a place with little or no physical mobility? If you're lucky, someone you have access to has connections and is willing to work with you.
> I have traveled in Russia and Mexico and made friends with regular people who live there. I also studied economics at university. I am thinking about what I am writing here.
How much time have you spent in the US? I'm assuming you don't live here from the way you write.
Being and entrepeneur does not require you to approve the actions of other entrepenuers. Surely you can be an entrepeneur and have higher moral standards than Donald Trump.
Or perhaps if you get sick and have horrendously high medical bills that your insurance decides not to cover because you failed to report a hangnail on your application (or got fired from a job and then got screwed by a pre-existing condition). Just a thought.
