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They weren’t rude enough. Your complete apathy towards the many antisocial effects of badly engineered software, caring only about increasing shareholder value, is the reason why modern software not only sucks but actively makes our lives worse to use it.


Interesting. So you believe that I don't think software quality affects the business?


No, you said it yourself, you don't believe software quality matters unless it "impacts the business".

> It's just irrelevant how bad code is unless it impacts the business

So the negative effects of poor code quality are completely irrelevant to you as long as they don't affect the bottom line.

Sorry if you think I'm being rude. I think it's ruder to make peoples lives worse because you only care about profits.


So you've got this low code quality that somehow doesn't impact product quality but at the same time makes someone's life worse? Can you give me a concrete example? Help me understand. I'm coming at this from having been in test for a long time before product, I care quite a bit about cquality, so it's really fascinating to see you respond this way.


> So you've got this low code quality that somehow doesn't impact product quality ...

Low quality code always impacts product quality in a negative manner. That is why it is "low quality code."

"High quality code" also impacts product quality, but in the predictably positive manner; fewer defects, ability to be enhanced, understandable behavior, etc.


Of course it impacts product quality, in fact that's really what matters, code quality is just a useful proxy for that since they're so highly correlated.


So I'm not sure what I said that you disagree with.


You're just trolling now. How rude.


Absolutely not. I'm trying to give you the opportunity to realize that I believe product quality is important to a business.


No, you made the point of saying that anything which doesn't affect the business is unimportant. Looking at the quality of software products by the largest and most successful big tech companies, it appears quality is not important. You can see how this is contradictory.


I'm watching you set up and tear down a strawman there.




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